What do people appreciate about Feminist Servers? What do we want them to be? servers don't have to be reliable. It is about the process, making it work together. collective care and that you make the infra visible. Rather than a hidden part because it is supposed to just work. power to knowledge, power to act a feminist server chooses its own Dependency, it is not autonomy as in we all run it ourselves. Dependencies are not considered negative. everyone working on it. Rather than te one person with expertise. Learn together No stress paradigma: not it has to be done today but when there is enough people to work on it together embodiment: how infra relates to the body. Not only physical but also emotionally. Server as a being that is connected to its surroundings Questioning authority. Command line certain commands Enabling others using our infra to do their activism analog things like fanzines. inviting for everybody. Not scarry, take the scaryness away. to support very local fights, local political organizations. Connect with people, connect to minorities or physical neighborhoods or buildings. It is an amazing list already

questioning protocols, authorities, material circumstances (exploiting natural resources for computers)

What do we need from our feminist server infrastructures. What do you need for your next steps in your feminist server. I would likt to talk about tooling, interested in how to nurture server communities A more basic, how is a server operated and or build one. Interested in setting up home servers

Notes of the 'Basics' group:

   You need to have the imaginary that you have a digital space. Imagine together. That speculation could already be a feminist server in itself. We were in TFC, on anarachaserver there is already quite some stuff about this imagining. 
   Four roles: how do you onboard, how do you say, we will do this together. How are going to access to the machine. How to easily get people involved. If you never opened a terminal, or talked to a machine. How to start it. trust-based: you need to have common understanding of what trust is and privacy and security. 
   Escribas: some people are discussing something or doing something technical. Scribas keep the documentation. And the documentation needs to be structured so that it is accessible to others and can be published. Important that others can read the docs and do it themseles. 
   Documention can presume you have knowledge. It is good to explain the basics. One of the principles: sometimes another person has a different understanding. Doing it together gives multiple 
   Having a lot of users a lot of responsibility. Systerserver does not have providing services but more about experimenting. You can start as a Escriba to do 'onboarding'/get to know how things work. Discussions are not noted down.
   Interfaces: what we are doing now. Letting people know feminist servers exist. 
   Guardians: Choices to make f.i. we have a service f.i. wiki. The guardian will guard that zone. Say on the mailing list: we need to update the wiki. 
   Fire extinguisher: people who have expertise and tech knowledge and are able to transmit it. When a service goes down, who knows how are we going to tackle that problem. This is not only technical but there can also f.i. be emotional emotioal extinguishers. Good to include broader expects, not only the technical

say you have 10 persons in the group. How do you start to choose roles and once you have them, how do you deal with turns. Do people just propose themselves to take a role? Or do you decide together: we need 3 Guardians. In the beginning you need to understand what your project is about. It is about what you need? Do you only want a digital infra? Or also bodily care f.i. Also import is that one changes roles. Otherwise it creates dependencies. Everyone should be able to take a role they want. And noone should feel the pressure of being unmissable. Personal lives take different paths. Sometimes you have time and somethimes you do not. Resources is also important: You are also sharing about different precarious challenges that people have/ When money comes in… For everyone there are different issues. Q: For me technical knowledge is missing. Where to start with that. Ecclactic tech carnival: self organized session to give presentations. Also through Escribas: because writing it down is also learning. Julia Evans makes zines with basic tech knowledge. Projetc Rosa. Solar punk: the map is not the territory. Command lines as methaphores for casting spells.